get a bill passed very early -- >> well, he had both sides on his side, right? for the first two years of his presidency, he had all in, you know? he had the leadership in terms of the democratic side, house and senate. so how is it possible that he didn't get more done when he had both sides of the aisle in his corner? >> if you let me finish, he did get a big stimulus bill passed, i would say within 6 to 12 months of taking office, the president's hand starts being felt on the economy. as you go through the four-year term, it then depends how big a problem you're dealing with. we were not dealing in early 2009 with the problems that are going to go away in one year or two years if super man was president. it was not going to be fixed in four years. by the way, i don't think he communicated that as well as he should have. to the american public. >> is there any evidence of business experience failing in the white house? >> well, there's herbert hoover. the best businessman to ascend to the white house was herbert hoover, by a margin. i wouldn't consider him a v